Aktion Reinhardt Camps: Did The Germans Really Defy The Laws of Nature To Vanish Millions Without A Trace?

According to Polish-Jewish historian Rachel Auerbach, fuel to burn bodies was not needed at Treblinka because the bodies of women, which had more fat, “were used to kindle, or, more accurately put, to build the fires among the piles of corpses…” Even more incredible, she wrote that “blood, too, was found to be first-class combustion material”

“….The laws of nature apply both to Nazis and anti-fascists. Nobody can be killed with diesel exhaust gas in the manner described [in the Holocaust literature].”

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Rachel Auerbakh was highly influential in the Holocaust Story and “her testimony at the Nuremburg and Eichmann Trials..” 1.

What Happened to Jews Sent to the Aktion Reinhardt Camps?

Establishment historians state that all Jews sent to the Aktion Reinhardt camps of Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor were exterminated. It is claimed that a handful of strong young Jews were temporarily spared to keep the camps running. All other Jews sent to the Aktion Reinhardt camps were immediately gassed upon arrival without registration.[1]

In his book Holocaust, historian Peter Longerich states that 1,274,166 Jews had been killed in the Aktion Reinhardt camps by the end of 1942. Longerich bases his statement on the fact that the Höfle telegram shows that this many Jews had been sent by then to the Aktion Reinhardt camps. Longerich assumes that every Jew sent to the Aktion Reinhardt camps was murdered.[2]

This article will show that the Aktion Reinhardt camps were actually transit camps rather than extermination camps.

Demographic Studies

The German policy of resettling Jews in the east is supported by the demographic studies of Eugene M. Kulischer. Kulischer, who was a member of the International Labor Office in Montreal during World War II, published in 1943 the book The Displacement of Population in Europe.[3] This book uses the work of 24 institutions that had at their disposal a huge network of channels of information in the various European nations. Kulischer was thus able to base his demographic studies upon the best existing sources.

Kulischer devotes an entire section of his book to the expulsion and deportation of Jews during World War II. Kulischer states:

      For the Polish ghettos are not the last stage in the forced eastward migration of the Jewish people. On 20 November 1941, the Governor General, Hans Frank, broadcast the information that the Polish Jews would ultimately be transferred further east. Since the summer of 1942 the ghettos and labour camps in the German-occupied Eastern Territories have become the destination of deportees both from Poland and from western and central Europe; in particular, a new large-scale transfer from the Warsaw ghetto has been reported. Many of the deportees have been sent to the labour camps on the Russian front; others to work in the marshes of Pinsk, or to the ghettos of the Baltic countries, Bielorussia and Ukraine.[4]

Kulischer states that removal of the Jews to the east was largely motivated by the wish to make use of them as forced labor. Jews were not sent to work in the Reich because this would violate the policy of making Germany free of Jews.

Kulischer states that

deportation to the east is for Jews the equivalent of the recruitment for work in the Reich to which the rest of the population of German-controlled Europe is subject, and their removal further and further eastward is doubtless connected with the need for supplying the army’s requirements near the front.[5]

Kulischer concludes that the vast majority of deported Jews

went to the General Government, and further east to the German and Rumanian-occupied territories of the Soviet Union.[6]

Nowhere in his book does Kulischer speak of extermination camps or of a German policy of genocide of the Jews. The demographic evidence does not support such a conclusion.

Himmler’s Statements     

Heinrich Himmler made numerous orders and statements indicating that the Aktion Reinhardt camps were transit camps. For example, on July 5, 1943, Himmler personally gave the following order:

The transit camp Sobibor is to be converted into a concentration camp. In the concentration camp a plant for the repair of captured munitions is to be established.[7]

On September 18, 1941, in a letter to Gauleiter Arthur Greiser, Himmler wrote that, in accord with the wishes of the Führer, the Jews were supposed to have been transported out of the Altreich and the Protectorate “into the eastern territories newly incorporated into the Reich two years ago,” but merely “as a first stage,” in expectation of a deportation “still farther to the east.”[8]

On November 18, 1943, in a speech given in Krakow before SS leaders and other German officials, Himmler spoke of:

…these 16 million foreign peoples, whose numbers were once made even larger by an enormous number of Jews, who of course now have emigrated or been brought to the east.[9]

Some Jewish historians dismiss these and other statements by Himmler by saying that the Nazis used code words to hide their genocide of European Jewry. This theory does not explain why Himmler used explicit written orders for his other crimes. For example, Heinrich Himmler authorized in writing many illegal human medical experiments and executions in the German concentration camps. It is absurd to think that Himmler hid the genocide of European Jewry behind code words, while his other crimes were clearly stated in writing.

Jews Sent from Aktion Reinhardt Camps to Auschwitz and Majdanek

       Since the Allies claimed that Nazi Germany had a program of genocide against European Jewry, numerous documents contradicting the genocide myth were hidden or destroyed by the Allies. However, enough documents exist to disprove Longerich’s assertion that all Jews sent to the Aktion Reinhardt camps were exterminated.

      Some Jews were sent from the Aktion Reinhardt camps to Auschwitz and Majdanek. Polish historian Zofia Leszczynska reports that 1,700 Jews left Belzec for Majdanek in October of 1942. Jewish historians Adam Rutkowski and Tatiana Berenstein state in an article about Jews at Majdanek:

Some of the transports from Warsaw reached Lublin by way of Treblinka, where the selection of the deportees took place.

Samuel Zylbersztain wrote that on April 30, 1942, a transport with 305 Jews arrived at Majdanek from Treblinka. Such reports are inconsistent with the claim that Belzec and Treblinka were pure extermination camps.[10]

The statements of numerous Dutch-Jewish deportees also indicate that Sobibor was a transit camp. Cato Polak was deported on March 10, 1943 and remained in Sobibor one or two hours before being transferred to Majdanek. Bertha Jansen-Ensel and Judith Eliazar, who had arrived in Sobibor on March 10, 1943, were likewise transferred to Majdanek. Although they alluded to gas chambers and cremations, they declared:

Sobibor was no camp, rather a transit camp.

Jules Schelvis, deported to Sobibor on June 1, 1943, was transferred three hours after his arrival there and eventually returned to Holland via Auschwitz.[11]

Sientje and Jetje Veterman were sent to Sobibor on April 6, 1943. They were sorted out together with 28 other women for work and transferred to Trawniki. They returned to the Netherlands by way of Auschwitz-Birkenau. Elias Alex Cohen was deported to Sobibor on March 17, 1943. Cohen spent only a few hours in Sobibor and was sent to Majdanek with 35 other Jews. Sophie Verduin was deported to Sobibor on March 10, 1943, and transferred to Majdanek after a few hours. Her return home to Holland took place by way of Auschwitz-Birkenau.[12]

Nearly all of the Dutch Jews who had been transferred from Sobibor to another camp returned home by way of Auschwitz-Birkenau. The survival of these Dutch Jews proves that Sobibor was not solely used as an extermination camp.[13]

The foundations unearthed at Sobibór in September 2014: an irregular-shaped building with a number of rooms of different sizes, completely contradictory to the official Holocaust Storyteller narrative of “four square meter chambers.” The irregular size of the rooms is clearly visible in this photograph.

Forensic Evidence

       Forensic evidence indicates that the Aktion Reinhardt camps were not extermination camps. A detailed forensic examination at the Treblinka camp using sophisticated electronic ground radar found no evidence of mass graves. An Australian team headed by Richard Krege, a qualified electronics engineer, carried out an examination at the site of the Treblinka camp. Krege’s team used an $80,000 Ground Penetration Radar (GPR) device, which sends out vertical signals that are visible on a computer monitor. GPR devices are routinely used around the world by geologists, archeologists and police. GPR detects any major disturbances in the soil to a normal effective depth of four or five meters.

For six days in October 1999 the team carefully examined the entire Treblinka site, especially the alleged “mass graves” portion, and carried out control examinations of the surrounding area. Krege’s team also carried out visual soil inspections, and used an auger to take numerous soil samples. They found no soil disturbance consistent with the burial of hundreds of thousands of bodies, or even evidence that the ground had ever been disturbed. In addition, the team found no evidence of individual graves, bone remains, human ashes or wood ashes. Richard Krege concludes from his examination of the site that Treblinka was never an extermination camp.[14]

In regard to excavations at Sobibor, Thomas Kues states:

      In an article published in The Scotsman on November 26, 2001, we read that Polish archaeologist A. Kola and his team had discovered seven mass graves at the Sobibor site…Despite seven years having passed since the drilling and diggings were reportedly made, not a single article, paper or scientific report has appeared on them, neither in English, Polish, nor in any other language.[15]

No articles, papers or scientific reports have been published because A. Kola and his team had nothing to report that would benefit the claim that Sobibor was an extermination camp.

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Caroline Sturdy Colls Proving 1.6 Million Jews & Undesirables Killed In Treblinka

Defenders of the Holocaust story have sometimes used forensic archaeologist Dr. Caroline Sturdy Colls and her limited excavation work at Treblinka to prove that Treblinka was an extermination camp. An analysis of her work shows that she fails to prove that Treblinka was an extermination camp.[16]

Photographic and Engineering Evidence

German aerial reconnaissance photographs taken in 1944 of the Treblinka camp also cast serious doubts on the widely accepted story that Treblinka was a mass extermination center. Discovered in 1989 in the National Archives in Washington, D.C., these photographs corroborate other evidence indicating that Treblinka was actually a transit camp. The photographs indicate that Treblinka was an extremely small camp. The camp’s burial area is too small to contain the hundreds of thousands of bodies supposedly buried there. Treblinka was not particularly well guarded or isolated. The aerial photographs show that fields where Polish farmers planted and cultivated crops were directly adjacent to the camp perimeter and were cultivated right up to the edge of the camp.[17]

John C. Ball, a geologist with experience interpreting aerial photographs, has reviewed the wartime aerial photos taken of Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor. Ball concludes:

To this day there is no air photo evidence to support the alleged mass murder of the Jews at any location in Europe occupied by the Germans during World War Two. Further, air photo analysis refutes the claim that the ‘Nazis’ had intended, at whatever time, to keep events in the alleged extermination camps secret.[18]

Of the five camps where carbon monoxide was supposedly used to kill inmates, the vast majority of victims are said to have been killed in the Aktion Reinhardt camps. Carbon monoxide was supposedly generated by Diesel engines to kill the victims. However, the Diesel engine is an inherently inadequate choice as a source of carbon monoxide. The logical choice as a source of carbon monoxide would have been the gasoline engine. Any common, ordinary gasoline engine would easily have given the Germans 10 times more carbon monoxide production than any similarly sized Diesel engine.[19]

American engineer Friedrich Paul Berg states:

      The hoax becomes even more obvious when one discovers that far better sources of carbon monoxide, better even than gasoline engines, were readily available to the Germans – and required neither Diesel fuel nor gasoline…Even if some deranged minds had tried for a time to commit murder with Diesel exhaust, after a few tries it would have become apparent to even the most demented fiend that something far better was needed. The idea that the National Socialists actually used such a method not just for a few fiendish experiments, but continually over many months in several different locations is too preposterous. It never happened![20]

Walter Lüftl, a court-recognized expert engineer who headed a large engineering firm in Vienna, concludes in his report that the stories of gas chambers with diesel engines and gas vans at places such as Treblinka can only be disinformation. Lüftl states:

The laws of nature apply both to Nazis and anti-fascists. Nobody can be killed with diesel exhaust gas in the manner described [in the Holocaust literature].[21]

Impossibility of Disposing of Bodies

Historians universally acknowledge that none of the Aktion Reinhardt camps had crematoria. All other German concentration camps such as Buchenwald and Dachau had crematoria even though mass killings are not alleged to have taken place at these camps. Why wouldn’t the Germans have built crematoria at the Aktion Reinhardt camps, since such crematoria would have been far more necessary to accomplish the mass killings?[22]

According to Holocaust historians, the bodies of Jews gassed at the Aktion Reinhardt camps were first buried in mass graves. The bodies were later exhumed and burned in the open air.[23]

Based on several cremation experiments, Carlo Mattogno determines that 160 kg of wood are needed to cremate a human body weighing 45 kg. He calculates that the burning of 870,000 bodies at Treblinka would have left 1,950 tons of human ashes, plus 11,100 tons of wood ashes. The total volume of ashes would have amounted to approximately 48,400 cubic meters. Also, 139,200 metric tons of wood would have been required for the incineration of the bodies. Since human teeth and bones cannot be completely destroyed through open air cremations, myriads of teeth and bone fragments would have been scattered at the site of the former camp.[24]

Even if Mattogno’s calculations are significantly inflated, the mass extermination of approximately 870,000 people at Treblinka would have left huge amounts of human and wood ashes as well as teeth and bones. The fact that large quantities of these have not been found indicates that mass exterminations of inmates did not take place at Treblinka.

Although enormous amounts of fuel would have been needed to cremate the hundreds of thousands of alleged corpses, there is no documentary record or witness recollection of the great quantities of firewood that would have been required. According to Polish-Jewish historian Rachel Auerbach, fuel to burn bodies was not needed at Treblinka because the bodies of women, which had more fat,

were used to kindle, or, more accurately put, to build the fires among the piles of corpses…

Even more incredible, she wrote that

blood, too, was found to be first-class combustion material.[25]

Auerbach’s explanation of how bodies were burned at Treblinka is total nonsense.

Conclusion

      Many Jewish prisoners undoubtedly perished during or after their rail journey to the Aktion Reinhardt camps. It is also plausible that hundreds and perhaps thousands of Jews who were too weak or ill to continue the eastbound journey from the camps were killed by officials acting on their own authority. These prisoners were buried at the Aktion Reinhardt camps. However, there is no compelling evidence that the Aktion Reinhardt camps were extermination centers in which Jews were systematically put to death.[26]

The Aktion Reinhardt camps were transit camps rather than extermination camps. The demographic studies, the numerous statements from Heinrich Himmler, the  reports of transfers of Jews from the Aktion Reinhardt camps to Auschwitz and Majdanek, the lack of credible forensic evidence that mass exterminations occurred at the camps, the photographic and engineering evidence, the impossibility of disposing of so many bodies in such a short period of time, the relative lack of secrecy and security in the camps, and the small size of the areas where the bodies were supposedly buried all indicate that the Aktion Reinhardt camps were transit camps.

An awful scene awaited the Soviet soldiers in Majdanek: the wooden crematorium building had burned down shortly before they arrived, leaving only the brick ovens standing. Corpses which had been due for cremation were half-burned in the fire, and when the wooden structure had burned away, the skeletal remains of the dead were lying out in the open, as can be seen in this picture. The shocking scene has often been used as “evidence” of mass murder, but in reality the skeleton pictures from Majdanek were only the result of the crematorium building fire. Today, the crematorium ovens are completely enclosed in a building erected after the war—which, as mentioned, also now contains a “gas chamber.”
The extent of the “reconstruction” work at the Majdanek crematorium is evident from these two photographs. Left: The crematorium as it was found by the Soviets. Only the chimney and the crematorium, both made of brick, were left standing after a fire destroyed the surrounding building. Right: How the chimney and crematorium are presented to visitors at the campsite today. The whole wooden building surrounding the crematorium chimney has been added. Although there is no evidence whatsoever that there was a “gas chamber” in the original crematorium building, one has been included in the “rebuilt” wooden house, and is passed off as such to present-day visitors who are not told that the entire surrounding structure was built after the war.

ENDNOTES

[1] Graf, Jürgen, “David Irving and the Aktion Reinhardt Camps,” Inconvenient History, Vol. 1, No. 2, 2009.

[2] Longerich, Peter, Holocaust: The Nazi Persecution and Murder of the Jews, Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2010, p. 340.

[3] Kulischer, Eugene M., The Displacement of Population in Europe, Montreal: International Labour Office, 1943.

[4] Ibid., pp. 110-111.

[5] Ibid., p. 110.

[6] Ibid., p. 112.

[7] Mattogno, Carlo and Graf, Jürgen, Treblinka: Extermination Camp or Transit Camp? Washington, D.C.: The Barnes Review, 2010, pp. 258-259.

[8] Ibid., p. 254.

[9] Ibid., pp. 255-256.

[10] Graf, Jürgen, “David Irving and the Aktion Reinhardt Camps,” Inconvenient History, Vol. 1, No. 2, 2009.

[11] Mattogno, Carlo and Graf, Jürgen, Treblinka: Extermination Camp or Transit Camp? Washington, D.C.: The Barnes Review, 2010, p. 259.

[12] Ibid., pp. 259-260.

[13] Ibid., p. 260.

[14] The Journal of Historical Review, Vol. 19, No. 3, May/June 2000, p. 20.

[15] Graf, Jürgen, “David Irving and the Aktion Reinhardt Camps,” Inconvenient History, Vol. 1, No. 2, 2009.

[16] See http://www.westernspring.co.uk/treblinka-forensic-examination-fails/.

[17] Weber, Mark and Allen, Andrew, “Treblinka,” The Journal of Historical Review, Vol. 12, No. 2, Summer 1992, p. 134.

[18] Ball, John Clive, “Air Photo Evidence,” in Gauss, Ernst (ed.), Dissecting the Holocaust: The Growing Critique of Truth and Memory, Capshaw, AL: Thesis and Dissertations Press, 2000, p. 284.

[19] http://balder.org/judea/pdf/Dissecting-The-Holocaust-Germar-Rudolf.pdf, pp. 445, 459.

[20] Ibid., pp. 459, 469.

[21] Lüftl, Walter, “The Lüftl Report,” The Journal of Historical Review, Vol. 12, No. 4, Winter 1992-1993, pp. 403-406, 419.

[22] Graf, Jürgen, “David Irving and the Aktion Reinhardt Camps,” Inconvenient History, Vol. 1, No. 2, 2009.

[23] Ibid.

[24] Mattogno, Carlo and Graf, Jürgen, Treblinka: Extermination Camp or Transit Camp? Washington, D.C.: The Barnes Review, 2010, pp. 150-151.

[25] Auerbach, Rachel, “In the Fields of Treblinka,” edited by Donat, Alexander, The Death Camp Treblinka, New York: Holocaust Library, 1979, p. 38.

[26] http://ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p133_allen.html.

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  1. larryzb says:

    Peter Winter addressed many of these issues with the official holocaust story in his well researched book: The Six Million: Fact or Fiction? His conclusion is that the official story is not acceptable because it is not supported by the evidence.

    In Nora Levin’s 1968 tome, The Holocaust, The Destruction of European Jewry 1933 – 1945, we read the supposed quote of Heydrich telling Eichmann that “The Fuhrer has ordered the physical extermination of the Jews.” This long tome was a work of the library with no forensic evidence to be considered and no author visits to the camps. Her sources were also lacking researcher visits to the camps and had no forensic evidence to support their claims.

    • larryzb says:

      This article ought to be posted to the WordPress tags “holocaust” and “the holocaust”.

    • WakeyWakey says:

      Peter Winter’s “The Six Million: Fact or Fiction” is indeed an excellent scholarly work for those focused specifically on the fact or fiction of the intentional genociding of Jews. It certainly convinced me, by the time I laboriously worked my way through it, that the vested interests ‘just make anything up’.

      Now that all the hocus pocus stories have been scientifically scrutinized and thoroughly researched by Historians, and found to be ludicrous and often outrageous fiction, the only alternative to admitting the lies and incurring the wrath of the world is to create ‘laws’ that place revisionist historians in prison for daring to speak fact instead of fiction, as a ‘threat’ and warning to others not to speak out. Of course they even put 88 year old Wise Elder and genteel woman URSULA HAVERBECK in prison for 2 years just for daring to question the ‘official’ narrative that 6 million Jews were gassed in gas chambers.

  2. Tarig Anter says:

    No doubt “the holocaust” is a hoax made by poor mentality and logic.
    The whole Jewish history and literature are infested with lies since their invention in 530 BC by Turkic Mongolians in Persia.

  3. Tarig Anter says:

    Those Turkic Mongolian groups, and the Jews are one of them, are putting humanity on the defensive all the time while they are the only aggressors on Earth. Humanity and European cannot be hostage to one fake story like this “holocaust”.
    Enough is enough, Europeans and the world switch to bringing the endless crimes into light.
    The colonization of the Americas, Asia, and Africa; the Slavery of Asia, Europe, and Africa; organized criminal cartels; debts; usury; destruction of religions; terrorism and many more are indeed Turkic Mongolian (Jewish) mass crimes and they must be charged and condemned.

  4. brycesdaddy1105 says:

    OK, there’s a comment. Not sure what happened to my original one, maybe it’s the link.

    In any case, witnesses who actually saw or installed the engines at the various Reinhard Camps stated they were petrol and not Diesel engines:

    “For Chelmno, multiple testimonies show that the gas vans used gasoline engines, including those of driver Walter Burmeister[3] and SS-Oberscharführer Walter Piller.[4] Gasoline engines were also noted in testimonies given to the Main Commission for the Investigation of German Crimes in Poland in the 1940’s by the engineers who repaired the Chelmno vans.[5] For the Reinhard camps, a key example is SS-Scharführer Erich Fuchs, who took part in the construction of the gas chambers at Belzec and Sobibor[6] and stated in his testimony about Sobibor:
    We unloaded the engine. It was a heavy Russian petrol engine (presumably an armoured vehicle or traction engine), at least 200 HP (V-engine, 8-cylinder, water cooled).[7]
    Erich Bauer, known as the “Gasmeister” of Sobibor for his operation and service work of the gassing engine, stated:
    I have worked with motors. I have operated the motor and it was a petrol engine in my opinion, a big engine, I think a Renault.[8]
    Another operator of the Sobibor gas chambers, Franz Hödl, in his description of the new installation at the camp specifically discounted the use of diesel engines for gassing:
    In the engine room there were indeed two engines. There was a petrol engine, probably from a Russian tank, and a diesel engine. The latter was never used, however.[9]”

    And:

    “About the engine in Belzec in September 1944 Rudolf Reder stated:
    There was an annex made to the “bath” building from the side which was the farthest from the railway line, in which there was a compressor, working from a petrol engine. To this machine gas cylinders were brought. From the compressor the pipes went into each chamber. In each chamber on the wall there was a small netting to which the gas-pipe went.[12]
    As we see, at that time Reder assumed that the killing apparatus was a compressor. Whether this implies that he thought that air was pumped out is unclear, as well as it is unclear what role the gas cylinders played. Regardless of the confusion, Reder spoke of the petrol engine on which the system was based.
    In December 1945, Rudolf Reder made another statement:
    I myself saw that in that small room there was an engine with petrol fuel that looked very complicated. I remember that the engine had a flywheel, but I could not make out any other specific construction or technical features. This engine was always operated by two technicians, Russians from the armed camp staff. I know only that the engine used 4 cans of petrol each day, because that is how much petrol was brought to the camp every day. It was when the petrol was delivered to the engine room that I briefly had the opportunity to look inside the room.[13] ”

    “Another witness who became closely involved with the Belzec engines was the Polish mechanic Kasimierz Czerniak, who helped establish the power supply at the camp. In his work, Czerniak happened to see the engine used for homicidal gassings:
    The motor of the small power station had 15 H.V., in contrast to the large power station which had the power of 200 H.V. From this motor, pipes led underground to take away the engine exhaust. Where these pipes went, I don’t know.(…) The 200 H.V. motor was mounted on a base at the back of the barrack.[19]
    Later, Czerniak had the opportunity to more closely examine this barrack.
    I have seen that on this barrack there were three doors from a wooden ramp and that from this ramp, a narrow gauged railway led to another part of the camp. The aforementioned doors were sliding doors which locked with hooks/pegs; they moved with the help of wheels on a track. The “Blacks” laughingly told me that this barrack was a store. I understood that it was where the gas chamber was located.
    Czerniak also helped maintain and repair the engines used by the Germans at the camp during Belzec’s operation. This means that when Czerniak states that, “The 200 H.V. motor was powered by gasoline, as were the three other mentioned cars,”[20] his statement comes with a good deal of direct knowledge and experience with the engines. Despite Czerniak’s key vantage point, MGK have omitted him completely from their works, while Mattogno ignored him from a list of Belzec witnesses “known to be important” in regards to the engine.[21] ”

    “For Treblinka the key testimony is that of a guard Nikolay Shalayev, who was one of the infamous Treblinka “motorists” (he is often mentioned in testimonies together with Ivan “The Terrible” Marchenko, usually as “Ivan and Nikolay” or “Ivan and Mykola”) and who obviously knew the engine he himself operated:
    It was an ordinary, four-cylinder engine which used gasoline and, according to the story, of the German machine operator, was of Russian make. The engine was installed on a wooden frame and started as soon as people were herded into the gas chamber rooms, whereupon the exhaust pipe was covered up and the valve of the pipe was opened, through which the exhaust entered the “bath”.[22]
    Shalayev added that he was later operating a generator that resided in the same facility as the gassing engine. The generator supplied electricity for the whole camp.[23]
    There also exist testimonies about petrol engines by the people whose degree of closeness to the engine is unknown. We will list them to show that not only diesels were mentioned by such witnesses.
    Ukrainian guard Ivan Semyonovich Shevchenko made a very detailed statement on September 8, 1944 to a senior SMERSH investigator of the 65th army. Among other things he reported:
    A stone building, the so-called “dushegubka”, had nine chambers inside, in which people were murdered by asphyxiation with gases. In the tenth chamber there was an engine of high power which pumped the gas into the chambers.[24][…]In the last chamber on the right side in the north-eastern corner of the building there was a high-power engine which worked on petrol or ligroin.[25]
    Treblinka inmate Oskar Strawczynski also wrote in 1944 that he heard from others that:
    The doors are hermetically sealed, the motors start to work. The air from inside is sucked out and fumes from burnt gasoline forced in.[26]”

    Now, I’d post a link to my source but it didn’t link the first time. I can try that again.

    • WakeyWakey says:

      If all your ‘evidence’ is dependent on eye witnesses alone, that is rather unfortunate because eye witnesses of the ‘holocaust’ have proved, under eventual scrutiny, to be notoriously unreliable and many absolutely outrageous. You provide no source information either. If you cannot link to your source, why not type it out?

      • brycesdaddy1105 says:

        “If all your ‘evidence’ is dependent on eye witnesses alone, that is rather unfortunate because eye witnesses of the ‘holocaust’ have proved, under eventual scrutiny, to be notoriously unreliable and many absolutely outrageous.”

        Do you not find it hypocritical, then, that you depend on eyewitnesses for proof these camps were “transit camps?”

        I accept that some healthy Jews were spared for labor and transferred elsewhere. That fits overall German policy , sparing those who could work and murdering those that couldn’t.

        However, a few Jews here and there do not a transit camp make. Most of those allegedly “transited to the east” left their clothes, possessions, food and other items at the camp. “Revisionist” theory claims these Jews were transferred into the USSR, however, the majority were not tracked out of the camps to a final location. The Korherr Report does not show any settlements of foreign Jews in the USSR.

        “Revisionists” also do not account for the conditions inside the USSR at that time. Are we to assume that these people were set loose naked into the wilderness? Into either active war zones or partisan zones? Why, when German authorities believed that Jews actively assisted partisans?

        No “revisionist” account answers these questions.

  5. brycesdaddy1105 says:

    It looks like I can’t post links, that’s too bad.

  6. wearswar says:

    I believe you should be able to post a link now. Please try and we can confirm it works!

  7. brycesdaddy1105 says:

    In regards to Krege, he never published his results. We only have one scan. Why is that?

  8. May I just add my tuppenceworth?
    brycesdaddy1105 (Hi btw) you say it was petrol and not diesel at work in the various Reihard camps but may I refresh your memory. This is a direct quote and copy from a link you sent me from the Gerstein report which you seem to put much store by.
    “The doors close. At the same time the others are waiting outside in the open air, naked. Someone tells me: “The same in winter!” “Yes, but they could catch their death of cold,” I say. “Yes, exactly what they are here for!” says an SS man to me in his Low German. Now I finally understand why the whole installation is called the Hackenholt-Foundation. Hackenholt is the driver of the diesel engine, a little technician, also the builder of the facility. The people are brought to death with the diesel exhaust fumes. But the diesel doesn’t work! Hauptmann Wirth comes. One can see that he feels embarrassed that that happens just today, when I am here. That’s right, I see everything! And I wait. My stop watch has honestly registered everything. 50 minutes, 70 minutes [?] – the diesel doesn’t start! The people are waiting in their gas chambers. In vain! One can hear them crying, sobbing… Hauptmann Wirth hits the Ukrainian who is helping Unterscharführer Hackenholt 12, 13 times in the face. After two hours and 49 minutes – the stop watch has registered everything well – the diesel starts. Until this moment the people live in these 4 chambers, four times 750 people in 4 times 45 cubic metres! Again 25 minutes pass. Right, many are dead now. One can see that through the small window in which the electric light illuminates the chambers for a moment. After 28 minutes only a few are still alive. Finally, after 32 minutes, everyone is dead!”
    He mentions diesel five times in that quote……. Also just one more little point. In a quote you posted the witness testimony says “We unloaded the engine. It was a heavy Russian petrol engine (presumably an armoured vehicle or traction engine), at least 200 HP (V-engine, 8-cylinder, water cooled)”
    Why would the Germans use a Russian (or any other type of enemy engine) for such a critical task when they would have extremely limited access to spare parts a manual or even the correct type of fuel or tools?

    • WakeyWakey says:

      Reads like a fiction novel…..

    • WakeyWakey says:

      Head of British Psychological Warfare Executive (Propaganda), Victor Cavendish-Bentick in a hand written note, wrote on Aug 27th, 1943, “We have had a good run for our money with this gas chamber story we have been putting about, but don’t we run the risk eventually we are going to be FOUND OUT AND WHEN WE ARE FOUND OUT THE COLLAPSE OF THAT LIE is going to bring the whole of our psychological warfare with it? So isn’t it rather time now to let it drift off by itself and concentrate on other lines that we are running.” In Public Record Office Document F0371/34551
      (my source: “Inside the South African Reserve Bank” by author Stephen Mitford Goodson)

    • brycesdaddy1105 says:

      “May I just add my tuppenceworth?
      brycesdaddy1105 (Hi btw)”

      Hello back to you.

      “you say it was petrol and not diesel at work in the various Reihard camps but may I refresh your memory. This is a direct quote and copy from a link you sent me from the Gerstein report which you seem to put much store by.
      “The doors close. At the same time the others are waiting outside in the open air, naked. Someone tells me: “The same in winter!” “Yes, but they could catch their death of cold,” I say. “Yes, exactly what they are here for!” says an SS man to me in his Low German. Now I finally understand why the whole installation is called the Hackenholt-Foundation. Hackenholt is the driver of the diesel engine, a little technician, also the builder of the facility. The people are brought to death with the diesel exhaust fumes. But the diesel doesn’t work! Hauptmann Wirth comes. One can see that he feels embarrassed that that happens just today, when I am here. That’s right, I see everything! And I wait. My stop watch has honestly registered everything. 50 minutes, 70 minutes [?] – the diesel doesn’t start! The people are waiting in their gas chambers. In vain! One can hear them crying, sobbing… Hauptmann Wirth hits the Ukrainian who is helping Unterscharführer Hackenholt 12, 13 times in the face. After two hours and 49 minutes – the stop watch has registered everything well – the diesel starts. Until this moment the people live in these 4 chambers, four times 750 people in 4 times 45 cubic metres! Again 25 minutes pass. Right, many are dead now. One can see that through the small window in which the electric light illuminates the chambers for a moment. After 28 minutes only a few are still alive. Finally, after 32 minutes, everyone is dead!”
      He mentions diesel five times in that quote……. ”

      That is one quote. Gerstein goes on to make many exaggerations in the future, historians quote what he says but usually in a cautious manner. I put stock in only what those who actually saw/operated/installed the engines in question.

      As for diesel, I’ve never understood this argument that it couldn’t kill. What we are talking about is a relatively air-tight room packed with people. Once the door shuts the people inside start to replace the oxygen with
      Carbon Dioxide. It doesn’t matter if the diesel exhaust contains x amount of oxygen, it isn’t enough to sustain the people inside. Also, diesel exhaust contains other toxins like sulfur dioxide and copious amounts of “black soot,” burnt gasoline particles that clog airwaves.

      My point is that regardless of what was used it was deadly enough to cause the people to die. In this case the people closest to the engine say it was petrol and not diesel.

      “Also just one more little point. In a quote you posted the witness testimony says “We unloaded the engine. It was a heavy Russian petrol engine (presumably an armoured vehicle or traction engine), at least 200 HP (V-engine, 8-cylinder, water cooled)”
      Why would the Germans use a Russian (or any other type of enemy engine) for such a critical task when they would have extremely limited access to spare parts a manual or even the correct type of fuel or tools?”

      Why did the Germans use Czech tanks or French trucks? Because they had a shortages. The Germans during the war recycled all sorts of equipment. Later during the Kursk Offensive they even used a squadron of captured Soviet T-34 tanks. One of the logistical problems the German had during their invasion of the USSR was due to the recycled equipment they used. So, the fact that they used Soviet engines for this is not really a surprise.

      • wearswar says:

        You may post one comment once a week. I may revise that to once a day if you do not clutter MY website.

      • As you say…. “As for diesel, I’ve never understood this argument that it couldn’t kill. What we are talking about is a relatively air-tight room packed with people. Once the door shuts the people inside start to replace the oxygen with Carbon Dioxide.”
        So if the room is airtight why even bother going through all the rigmarole of introducing exhaust fumes as the people inside will die quickly anyway. I do notice that you say “relatively air-tight” but there are numerous acounts of hermetically sealed gas chambers.
        Yes, that’s a fair comment on the use of recycled enemy equipment but it’s still impossible to believe that the Germans would rely on such an ad hoc ramshackle approach to such a sensitive endeavour.
        Apologies for my tardy response.

    • Alexander says:

      Why does it matter what the Germans used in the extermination process when all accounts say that it happened?

      • Because if you are going to accuse someone of murder you have to prove how they did it. Not just accept witness accounts as they can be notoriously unreliable.

        • wearswar says:

          Logic. How refreshing.

        • Alexander says:

          I agree that eyewitness accounts can be very unreliable. But a German tank engine, aRussian one a polish one and whether gas was used or petrol or whatever – the argument is being used to say that no murder took place.

          It was very unlikely that the prisoners in treblinka ever got that close to the engine – all they knew came from the Ukranian guards or from other prisoners. Any prisoner that saw the engine actually used did not live to tell about it.

          I just see the debate over what type of engine was being used is also used to say that no crime took place at all.

  9. wearswar says:

    For more information on the extensive and relentless propaganda unleashed by the Allies on a defeated Germany read: https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2017/08/10/how-many-genocides-can-germany-survive-genocide-of-the-german-people-part-2/

    How Many Genocides Can Germany Survive? “Genocide of The German People” – Part 2

    Grimm suggested to an Allied officer that since the war was over, it was time to stop the libel. The Allied officer replied:

    Why no, we’re just getting started. We’ll continue this atrocity campaign, we’ll increase it till no one will want to hear a good word about the Germans anymore, till whatever sympathy there is for you in other countries is completely destroyed, and until the Germans themselves become so mixed up they won’t know what they’re doing![1]

    • larryzb says:

      It is true that Germany, the German people really, were demoralized after the war. Cultural Marxism has destroyed Germany, or what was left of after the late 1940s. I say late 1940s because of all the post war deaths caused by Allied policies (the expulsions of ethnic Germans from eastern territories, the starvation of German POWs by Eisenhower, and the purposeful starvation of the civilian population in the western part of Germany).

      So, who killed more innocent people? Those terrible Germans, or the holier than thou British and Americans?

      It would take many volumes to do justice to all the injustice and harm the British did around the world with their empire.

      By the way, shortly after the war, there was something called the London Decree of August 8, 1945 whereby post war Germany was to be re-educated with a severe de-emphasizing, delegitimizing of German culture. Udo Walendy has written on this in his book, The Brainwashing of The German Nation. As punitive as Versailles was a generation earlier, after the war in 1945 it was even worse for Germans and Germany. Their culture was to be squashed if not erased.

      • wearswar says:

        It is the Editors view (not author John Wear) that England has not been British since 1656. Thank you Cromwell.

        We are just getting started on WearsWar. IMHO, you are right on target. The brainwashing of the Germans and the Allied nations is incredibly important to understanding our world today. How can the brainwashing be so complete both within one nation and then around the globe about that nation? Will we survive it?

  10. larryzb says:

    We just found this post by another blogger. It may be of interest to some of the commenters here.

    https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/2017/01/27/holocaust-revisionism-in-60-seconds/

  11. wearswar says:

    Please do not do that again. I will delete clutter.

  12. larryzb says:

    You are behaving like the troll you are.

    • larryzb says:

      To be clear, you have insulted me on other blogs. That is why your comments are banned on our blog. I do not mind other view points.. What becomes tiresome is that you spam blog posts with sundry links and do not respond to commenters who poke holes in your arguments.

      If you can add to the discussion, then participate. But, your activity seems to be that of a person seeking attention and not genuinely interested in a mature debate.

      • brycesdaddy1105 says:

        “To be clear, you have insulted me on other blogs.”

        You have my sincerest apologies.

        “That is why your comments are banned on our blog.”

        Again, as a married man I thought I could add to the discussion. It was not meant as an insult in any way and I never even mentioned the Holocaust.

        ” I do not mind other view points.. What becomes tiresome is that you spam blog posts with sundry links and do not respond to commenters who poke holes in your arguments.”

        Well, Larry, I can’t hang about all day answering comments. I generally try and answer whatever is put to me but sometimes I miss comments. Feel free to:

        Join me on the Skeptics Forum. It’s where I spend most of my time.

        Answer me on Apocolypsis. Sometimes the comments I put in do not save, I have the same problem here as well. I don’t know why but it’s frustrating typing out a comment with links only for it to not save. It’s why I prefer Skeptics.

        Discuss matter with me here.

        I think I’ve given you many options.

        “If you can add to the discussion, then participate. But, your activity seems to be that of a person seeking attention and not genuinely interested in a mature debate.”

        That’s an opinion, Larry. I enjoy engaging Holocaust deniers on-line, it’s a bit of a hobby, along with my study of history. You and the others enjoy posting your version, I do my best to answer.

        • wearswar says:

          If you choose to return after the 1 week limit, do not use the term ‘denier’. I accept revisionist as a descriptor, we review Hollywood rather than reproduce it here.

  13. larryzb says:

    “It is the Editors view (not author John Wear) that England has not been British since 1656. Thank you Cromwell.” From a Catholic perspective, England has not been authentic since the time of Henry VIII’s break with Rome circa 1540. (Hillaire Belloc, the Catholic historian and author (died 1950) wrote a number of good books on the Reformation which caused much infighting among the developing nation states of Europe.) Sorry to get off topic. But, there are many threads to the tapestry of the modern world.

    • wearswar says:

      The Editor (not John Wear) mourns the loss of the Catholic Church to strategic and toxic infiltration. Few appreciate the scientific and intellectual discoveries and methodologies our Monks and Monasteries gifted Western Civilization and the world.

      • larryzb says:

        I better refrain from getting off topic , , , but the “Reformation ” could not be rolled back in England in no small part because the new rich who had become so by confiscating Church lands and assets would not give back their ill gotten wealth. My point is that opportunistic property confiscation and outright theft played a significant role in the British break with Rome. Differences in theology or moral prohibitions or precepts were not the only factor and perhaps not the major factor in play.

  14. larryzb says:

    Re: Forbidden history pingback directly above:

    Locust Blog has stolen my article and is in violation of WordPress guidelines and applicable copyright provisions. He has cut and paste my post word for word without permission and without giving credit to me for the original work.

  15. Alexander says:

    I used to have some heated discussions with Holocaust deniers or Holocaust revisionists about Treblinka as they claimed that Treblinka was a transit camp. The problem with Holocaust deniers is that they ignore the testimony of not just jewish survivors, but the obvious statements made by the SS perpetrators themselves. Even infamous Holocaust denier David Irving was forced to review his denial of the Holocaust when confronted by the testimony of Adolf Eichmann. Holocaust denial is not history. Its a madness.

    • On Treblinka could you just please show us the Lidar scans of the alleged mass extermination site?
      Surely they must prove the mass graves?

      • Alexander says:

        Come on. You cannot possibly ignore the testimony of the SS, the eyewitness accounts as well as the findings of the Polish authorities at Treblinka. They know that there were mass graves there. Even at the Treblinka trials, SS commandant Franz Stangl providing details on what happened there.

        • Again, please indulge me and show me some convincing evidence of mass graves at Treblinka. As for eyewitness accounts again with all due respect surely you need some solid verifiable material evidence to back up the claims. Also what about the eyewitness accounts of an excavator which could dig up 3,000 corpses at one time or the claims that Jews were boiled in steam chambers at Treblinka. Do you accept those accounts?

          • Alexander says:

            I used to have a very heated discussion with a gentleman about Treblinka and the number of people murdered there as well as what took place there.

            One particular argument was that of the mass graves at Treblinka and the visit to Treblinka by a polish judge Lukaszkiewicz.

            The one statement that holocaust revisionists cling to from the report by Lukaszkiewicz is that he found no mass graves at Treblinka.

            The problem that i have with that part of the report is that it ignores the other parts of that report including eyewitness reports and the findings of human bones.

            I have had the same arguments also about the excavator and the types of excavator used as well. We know that there was not just one excavator at Treblinka. I have had arguments about the equipment that the excavator would need to dig up the graves etc.

            I have also had arguments about the burning of the bodies on the massive grills etc etc, the type of wood needed to burn the bodies, the burning of bodies as well as the ability of a gas chamber to hold so many people and the amount of gas used that would blow off the doors of the gas chamber. Ive heard it all.

            Now i understand that not all of the eyewitness accounts are going to be correct. Some of them were hearsay, some of them were from other prisoners, rumors etc. And thats what historians need to work out.

            I am just not in favor of dismissing an entire event because of wrong statements. If the eyewitness accounts were wrong and nothing happened at treblinka, then what did happen?

            I have received no evidence even justifying the transit camp theory.

    • larryzb says:

      @ Alexander:

      Will not spend much time on Jewish eye-witnesses. Elie Weisel may never have even been in Auschwitz as there are reports that he stole the identity of an inmate of that camp and that was his ticket to fame. If Germany had such a program of extermination, then why were there so many survivors? 4.3 million individuals registered for claims against the West German government through 1987. Germany never had more than 4.5 million Jews under its control during the war at any time. The math refutes this talismanic figure of Six Million (that as others who have posted comments here have pointed out had been used many times in the decades prior to World War II).

      You mention statements by the SS themselves that imply or confer veracity on the official holocaust tale. By the late 1950s, the official story could not be disputed in court. During the trials of these SS men and other guards that took place in the late 1950s and though the mid 1960s, a defendant could not use as a defense the argument that these crimes (holocaust exterminations) had never occurred. Thus, the defense used by many of the accused defendants was to disconnect one’s self from involvement in these actions.

      Eichmann, cited in Nora Levin’s 1968 tome, The Holocaust: the destruction of European Jewry 1933-1945, claims that Heydrich told him in person that “The Fuhrer has ordered the physical extermination of the Jews.” This wan never written down and try as we may we find no other corroborating evidence that there ever was such a Fuhrer order.

      Why not look at forensic examinations? When these are attempted, even by Jewish led teams, these are quickly terminated, as at Treblinka and Belzec, not for what these uncover but rather for what these fail to find. No mass burial pits capable of containing hundreds of thousands of corpses.

      (As an aside, I will mention in passing that many mass graves of anti-communist fighters have been found in recent decades during road construction in eastern and central Europe. What happens often times is that local Jewish leaders come in and declare the site effectively a Jewish cemetery and this bars forensic analysis being undertaken. The default position is that mass graves are just more proof of German crimes.)

      ” Holocaust denial is not history. Its a madness.”

      I guess that you would also view so-called “anti-Semitism” as madness, and infer that people who are seeking to get to the truth on this subject are by default motivated by a hatred of Jewish people. Holocaust revisionism is the attempt to get to the facts and bring the history of the period into accord with those facts and dispense with all the misinformation and propaganda surrounding this holocaust.

      Lastly, we ought to return to the Jewish eye-witnesses and their “testimony”. I encourage you to read the various books about the John Demjanjuk trial in Israel in 1987-8 and the long legal history leading up to it. Sadly, Jews are capable of lying, and in fact quite often do lie. Remember, there are 3 forms of a lie, and when it is expedient, Jews make us of all forms of lying.

      Rudolf Reder, to gain fame for himself, told the Red Army in late 1944 (after Belzec Camp had been “liberated”) that the Germans murdered 3 million Jews there. Besides this being an absurdly outrageous lie on the surface, he could not tell a plausible story on how these alleged Jewish victims had been killed. Exhaust gases were being vented to the open air and not being directed into some underground rooms used as “gas chambers”. The camps were transit and work camps.

      The Red Army and the Soviets put out exaggerated numbers for every camp that have now been greatly reduced even by those who accept the official holocaust tale. They did this for two reasons. First, they were angry as hell that the Germans had exposed their villainy at Katyn, and they wished to make Germany and Germans look very evil. Secondly, they wished to divert the world’s attention from their very real and very large scale atrocities both during and before the war (as in the Holodomor).

      (I added up the numbers for the death camps in occupied Poland and from the operations of the Einzatsgruppen in the East. Taking the high end numbers for the estimates of victims killed, I arrived at a figure of between 16 and 17 millions total dead.. These ranges, these estimates were from sources that promote the official holocaust story. Consider that the entire world population of Jews in 1939 was in the range of 15 million maximum. Consider, also that Jewish figures (figures coming from Jewish sources) for post war population of Jews in the world does not show a dramatic decline of several millions between 1939 and the late 1940s. Jews surviving the war largely emigrated to the US or to Palestine This pattern of exaggerating the losses to sensationalistic proportions tells the objective observer much.)

      • John says:

        larryzb,

        You made a great post. In regard to the forensic evidence, you might want to read an article that has just been published by Inconvenient History at
        https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/9/4/5160. The forensic evidence disproves the existence of homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz/Birkenau.

        • larryzb says:

          Thanks John for the link. I neglected to point out that many “confessions” by SS and others were obtained under duress and even through torture. But, I think that may have already been noted elsewhere on this blog.

      • Alexander says:

        firstly, thank you for your reply. It was a well written reply.

        I understand that eyewitness accounts can be inaccurate and even at times re-created as they look back on events. And thats a problem that historians have to deal with when looking at the holocaust.

        But those eyewitnesses saw something – what exactly did they see or did not see? It is wrong for any historian to simply dismiss every eyewitness account. Otherwise we are saying that all of the eyewitnesses were lying – and that is not historical investigation.

        Eichmann bragged about his role in the holocaust. His interview with a former SS turned journalist in which he said that he was not merely a cog in the machine.

        And what of Eichmann’s meeting with Raoul Wallenburg and the deal to spare jewish lives from Auschwitz in return for army trucks and equipment?

        Regarding the SS testimony – if nothing had happened, then what were the SS testifying to? If they were not there and had taken no direct part in the holocaust, then what did they see? They would not have been able to testify to anything if nothing had occured.

        Franz stangl at his trial was able to tell the court everything that happened at Treblinka. Was Stangl fed information before the trial and how can he have been given so much information in detail if he had been coerced?

        I am glad you brought up the John Dejamjuk story and his alleged role at Treblinka as ‘Ivan the Terrible’. The Israelis had put him on trial and he was released due to a lack of evidence – i believe.

        And i credit the Israelis for justice. They avoided the show trial that had been that of Adolf Eichmann. The Israelis were on very dangerous ground there. It didnt look good for justice to kidnap a guy and then put him on trial.

        Getting back to where we started. I agree historians have to review the facts and eyewitness statements. There were many stories and theories about the exact number of jews and other minorities murdered. Some of them had little basis or were estimates and guesses.

        But i am interested in historical investigation rather than simply saying that the whole thing didnt happen – because then that implies that everyone was lying or at best wrong. And thats no way to approach history.

        Thank you for your time and patience. And i look forward to reading your reply.

  16. John says:

    Alexander,

    I have read about 150 books on the so-called Holocaust. I have concluded that: 1) there were no homicidal gas chambers in any of the German concentration camps; 2) Germany did not have a program of genocide against the Jews; and 3) the standard estimate of 6 million Jews who died during World War II is a ridiculous exaggeration. I think anyone who studied the subject objectively would reach the same conclusion.

    You are correct that most of the evidence for the so-called Holocaust comes from eyewitness testimony. You can read the article I wrote on eyewitness testimony on this website at https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2017/08/05/holocaust-eyewitnesses-is-the-testimony-reliable/ for more information.

    Chapter Eight of my book “Germany’s War” discusses the allegations that Germany had a program of genocide against Jews. As shown in my book, Germany did not have a program of genocide against the Jews. I also have a total of four articles on the so-called Holocaust published in the last two quarterly issues of Inconvenient History that you can read if you have an interest.

    In regard to Adolf Eichmann, I have written an article on the Adolf Eichmann trial. I will get with my editors to see if we can publish this article in the next few weeks.

    • Alexander says:

      John,

      Thank you for that and yes your article on Eichmann would be very interesting especially since the whole legality of Eichmann’s trial was under scrutiny.

      I appreciate that you have done so much reading on the Holocaust and have come to a conclusion that can be backed up by research.

      But i am convinced that the Holocaust happened not just by the physical evidence, but because of the mentality of the Nazis – to them, the jews were subhuman, to be rid of, the lowest of the low.

      Now you can argue this is not enough to show or prove guilt – or maybe not even enough to show intent. But i believe that when you read the accounts of the SS and Ukrainan guards, i find that they did not even try to deny what happened there.

      It can be argued that SS testimony was coerced – and this is one of the arguments made in the arrest of Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Hoess. The beatings of Hoess and the hands of his British – polish captors has given rise to questions over his arrest and his ‘confession’.

      But at Nuremburg, Hoess was free to tell the whole world that Auschwitz did not happen and that it was a transit camp. He didnt. Why?

      I believe that the SS so despised the jews that killing them was something that they were almost proud of. I really believe that once you understand the mentality of the killers, its hard to conclude that the Holocaust did not happen.

      • John says:

        Alexander,

        In regard to Rudolf Höss, it is now acknowledged by everyone that he was brutally tortured by the British. Once a person has been brutally tortured into submission, how do you expect him a month later to freely tell the truth at the Nuremberg trials?

        Höss said that more than two and a half million people were exterminated in the Auschwitz gas chambers, and that another 500,000 inmates had died there of other causes. No defender of the Holocaust story today accepts these inflated figures, and other key portions of Höss’s testimony at Nuremberg are widely acknowledged to be untrue. Höss’s testimony at Nuremberg is simply not credible.

        In regard to the SS testimony, which SS testimonies do you find to be credible?
        The November 1945 indictment at Nuremberg claimed that the SS had murdered Jews in steam chambers at Treblinka. The SS and other eyewitness testimony here is obviously incorrect. No one today claims that steam chambers were used to kill people at Treblinka.

      • John says:

        Alexander,

        In regard to my statement that the November 1945 indictment at Nuremberg claimed that the SS had murdered Jews in steam chambers at Treblinka, please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_chamber_(holocaust_claim). I
        can provide more documentation if you want me to.

      • larryzb says:

        At Belzec, Jews were allegedly killed by being thrown into quick lime, and also by being made to “dance” on electrified metal plates thus suffering electrocution. It was only after the war, that those who promoted the tale decided on some kind of uniformity of method for the killings in all these camps, which became killing by “gas chambers”. Even those who promoted the tale realized that their fantastical claims would surely cause disbelief. (See Carlo Mattogno’s book on Belzec for all this and more, including the physical impossibility of burying hundreds of thousands of dead in the small camp of Belzec..) Auschwitz-Birkenau (Osweicim) had crematoria because burial was impractical due to the high water table in that area. Some inmates died and their corpses were cremated. But, these persons did not die from being “gassed”. Zykon B was a delousing agent. Why do we still have to go over this?

        Endlosung, or The Final Solution, was expulsion and resettlement, not extermination. The Germans saw the Jews as subversive of the economy, politics, social values, and the culture of Germany. They wanted the Jews out of their country. Expulsion and suffering privation in concentration camps is a far cry from extermination. When the tide of war turned, and Germany was not able to expand eastward, of course, the planned resettlements of the Jews did not take place. Then the camps ceased being transit camps and became holding pens so to speak for their inmates.

        One must at this juncture step back and ask: Why was the holocaust story invented? (Dealt with on this blog, yes.) Consider, what better way to divert attention away from your ethnic group’s nefarious deeds than to heap calumnies on to Germany and Germans incessantly for decades all the while inoculating your group from any critique or criticism by screaming about “anti-Semitism”? Why, after all, perpetual victims could never possibly be villains themselves! But, upon closer scrutiny we do find Jewish villainy. It is beyond the scope of this post and comments section, but the conclusion many of us have been compelled to after examining all the evidence is that Jews are possessed of/by a revolutionary nature or revolutionary psychopathology.

        As you asserted that Israel found Demjanjuk not guilty and there was justice, you apparently are not very familiar with the case. It was a show trial and the accused was found guilty on 18 April 1988, and then sentenced to death on 25 April 1988. More than 5 years later, in Sept, 1993, his conviction was over turned by the Supreme Court of Israel, and he was finally freed from an Israeli prison. One of the oddities of the case is the fact that the forged identity card provided by the Soviet Union did not show that Demjanjuk was ever at Treblinka! Yet, that was ignored and the fake ID card was considered evidence that the man was guilty of participating in the holocaust. Even more bizarre is that prior to the time of the trial it is very difficult to find reference to this “Ivan the Terrible” of Treblinka character in holocaust literature. The accused was not the man they claimed he was and the man they claimed he was seems to be a mythical figure! (Nora Levin does not mention him in her 500 page tome.)

        • Alexander says:

          Carlo Mattogno is a well known Italian holocaust denier. He does nothing but simply dismisses the holocaust stories out of hand – he provides no alternative or explanation as to what the survivors were referring to.

          There would have been stories coming out about what was happening at Belzec – either from the guards that were there or by the polish citizens in the area – who had their own ideas of what was going on or assumed to know what was going on.

          But this does not mean that nothing was happening there or because the story was wrong that we should dismiss it completely.

          If electrocution and other means of execution were not happening in Belzec, then what was happening in Belzec – were all of the stories wrong?

          The early accounts of events at Belzec may have been wrong – and its great that historians go in to double check eyewitness accounts to find out the truth – but is it fair to dismiss the holocaust or events at Belzec simply because the eyewitness accounts were wrong?

          I am not familiar with the John Demjanjuk case. All i know was he was arrested and put on trial in Israel – and found innocent. If the Israeli’s were looking for a show case Nazi – like Eichmann – then the case failed miserably. The fact is that justice prevailed and Demjanjuk was freed.

          But the failure to find Demjanjuk of being the notorious ‘Ivan the terrible’ does not and should not diminish events at Treblinka.

          • John says:

            Alexander,

            Have you actually read any of Carlo Mattogno’s books? In regard to Treblinka, I recommend reading “Treblinka: Transit Camp or Extermination Camp?’ by Carlo Mattogno and Jürgen Graf available at http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/19-s.pdf .

            You might also want to read “The ‘Extermination Camps’ of ‘Aktion Reinhardt’” by Carlo Mattogno, Thomas Kues and Jürgen Graf available at http://www.germanvictims.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/HolocaustTheExterminationCamps_Mattogno2013.pdf.

            If you still have an interest, I recommend “Belzec in Propaganda, Testimonies, Archeological Research, and History” by Carlo Mattogno available at http://www.solargeneral.org/wp-content/uploads/library/belzec-carlo-mattogno.pdf and “Sobibor: Holocaust Propaganda and Reality” by Carlo Mattogno, Thomas Kues and Jürgen Graf available at http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/19-s.pdf.

            All of these books are available to read free online. It will cost you no money to read them.

          • wearswar says:

            Gentlemen, FYI posts with multiple links sometimes end up in Spam. I check the spam folder regularly but it may delay your comment on occasion.

          • Alexander says:

            Sorry i have tried to read Carlo Mattogno’s work on Belzec and lost patience with it as he dismisses eyewitness accounts but offers no explanation on where they obtained their information from nor alternatives for what the eyewitnesses did see or did not see or what they could have seen.

            Sorry but historians have to make sense of the eyewitness accounts and offer alternatives or explain the accounts. I did not think that Mattogno tried to do any of this. And its a pity.

          • John says:

            Alexander,

            I don’t think you have ever read Carlo Mattogno’s work with the intent of actually understanding him. Please tell me of a specific eyewitness account of the Aktion Reinhard camps that you think is credible and we will proceed from there.

          • Alexander says:

            John, If the Holocaust did not happen, if the eyewitness accounts were all wrong and there are so many inaccuracies in the accounts to dismiss the holocaust – as Carlo Mattagno tries to do – then what did happen? Are all of the eyewitnesses lying or so inaccurate that we can simply say that the Holocaust did not happen?

            If mass murder did not take place in the camps, then what did happen?

          • John says:

            Alexander,

            Some inmates of the German camps died of typhus, typhoid and other natural causes. The majority of the inmates in the German camps survived the camps. These survivors moved to various countries in Europe as well as countries such as the United States, the Soviet Union and other countries.

  17. larryzb says:

    @ Alexander,

    “Carlo Mattogno is a well known Italian holocaust denier. ”

    The more you comment the more you begin to appear as a troll, sorry to say.

    Have you read any of the books he has written, or the books he has co-authored with Jurgen Graf?

    Believe as you wish. There are always plenty of people that opt to remain in a state of denial rather than confront unpleasant truths (such as that we have been lied to). Time is a precious resource to me, and it is not a worthwhile use of it any longer debating you.

  18. Hannover says:

    ” Himmler used explicit written orders for his other crimes. For example, Heinrich Himmler authorized in writing many illegal human medical experiments and executions in the German concentration camps. ”

    Really?
    Will you please show us these alleged ‘written orders by Himmler’.

    I encourage everyone to post at the CODOH Revisionist Forum as well.

    Cheers, Hannover

    The ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

    • John Wear says:

      Hannover,

      The malaria experimentation at Dachau was performed by Dr. Klaus Karl Schilling, who was an internationally famous parasitologist. Dr. Schilling was ordered by Heinrich Himmler in 1936 to conduct medical research at Dachau for the purpose of specifically immunizing individuals against malaria. Dr. Schilling admitted to Dr. Larson that between 1936 and 1945 he inoculated some 2,000 prisoners with malaria. The medical supervisor at Dachau would select the people to be inoculated and then send this list of people to Berlin to be approved by a higher authority. Those who were chosen were then turned over to Dr. Schilling to conduct the medical experimentation.

      Source: McCallum, John Dennis, Crime Doctor, Mercer Island, WA: The Writing Works, Inc., 1978, pp. 64-65.

  19. fertgop says:

    Were the jews just inherently dirty buggers…full stop??? This is from 1946, so cannot blame the Germans for this mess….. https://i.imgur.com/NwrxM8I.jpg?1

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  22. papasha408 says:

    Alexander, When there is no archival or forensic evidence for crimes in the Aktion Reinhardt Camps why would inmate testimonies garner so much credence? When you have ridiculous media coverage flogging this nonsense on the public for so long, it isn’t hard to understand the brainwashing. There were a few atrocity stories after the war but, the majority of the inmates made no reference to torture, extermination, or homicidal gas chambers. It wasn’t until the early fifties when West Germany was blackmailed into paying reparations to so-called holocaust victims, that the stories started taking off. By the mid-sixties, the stories became even more absurd and by the seventies, the holocaust fraud really took off with the most historically inaccurate television mini-series called ‘Holocaust,’ was flogged on the public. After that, the Zionists never looked back and unfortunately, today’s schoolchildren are taught a great big fat lie.

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